Thursday, June 13, 2013

Pronouns - "We"

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We have already discussed some pronouns:  the pronoun endings for the subject of verbs, and the possessive pronouns.

You may have noticed that we were missing the words for "we" and "our."  I didn't include those in the first discussion of pronouns, because there are four forms of “we” in Quenya.  Quenya makes several distinctions that English does not.   In Quenya, "we" which includes the listener(s) or reader(s) is different from "we" which does not include the listener(s)/reader(s).

Quenya pronouns make use of "dual" forms.   That is, there are special "dual" forms for "two people," in addition to "plural" forms for "more than two people."

Extra Material for the Geeks:
Tolkien changed his system of pronouns quite a bit during his lifetime.   This is one, commonly-used, fairly consistent, system, dating largely from the late 1960's.   You may encounter other systems.

Here is a complete list of the pronoun endings for verbs, including "we" and all the dual forms.

Pronoun Endings for Subject of Verbs

     -nyë, -n                     I
     -ngwë                        we (2 people)(includes hearer)
     -mmë                         we (2 people)(excludes hearer)
     -lwë, -lvë                  we (more than 2)(includes hearer)
     -lmë                           we (more than 2)(excludes hearer)
     -lyë, -l                        you (one person, formal/polite)
     -tyë                             you (one person, informal/familiar)
     -stë                             you (2 people)
     -ldë                             you (a group, more than 2)
     -s, (rarely -së)           he/she/it /genderless singular
     -ttë                              they (2)
     -ltë                              they (more than 2)

Extra Material for the Geeks:
Tolkien mentioned that -ngwë (we, 2 people, includes hearer) could also take the forms -ncë or -nquë.

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As mentioned before, the pronoun endings -n, -l, -s, -t could also refer to the object of the verb.
     -n     me
     -l      you (one person, formal/polite)
     -s      him/her/it /genderless singular
     -t      them (plural)
The subject-pronoun (in long form) goes first, then the object pronoun (in short form).
     Hantanyel     I thank you.     hanta- + -nye (I, subject)+ -l (you, object)

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Extra Material for the Geeks:
Tolkien mentioned that these pronouns can also be attached to prepositions. The only examples I know of are for an irregular form. (That is probably to say that Tolkien didn't make lists of the regular forms.)
ar(a)       outside, beside, besides
anni       beside me
armë      beside us (exclusive)
arwë     beside us (inclusive)
armet   beside us (two)
astyë      beside you (informal)
allë         besides you (formal)
arsë         beside him/her”

Practice – Your Turn

Now it really is your turn!  I know people read this blog.  I want to see what you are doing with your Quenya.  Post an example in the Comments, or email it to me {lihan_taifun (at) yahoo (dot) com} and I will post it in Comments for you.

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